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douglas9

(4,840 posts)
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 06:35 AM Yesterday

Armada Of USAF Tankers Just Deployed East Over Atlantic Spurring Speculation

Over two dozen U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers from across the United States appeared on flight-tracking software yesterday evening, taking off from their bases and heading east over the Atlantic. It isn’t clear if they were ‘dragging’ any combat aircraft with them, but there wasn’t any obvious signs of that.

While tanker movements in this direction are far from abnormal, such a large, near-simultaneous migration of the jets was very peculiar, especially at a time of extreme crisis in the Middle East. The exact reason for the mass deployment is unclear, although many of the potential answers would indicate a change, or preparations for a potential change, in the current conflict between Israel and Iran.

Open-source enthusiasts took to social media after all the tankers began popping up on flight tracking software. At its peak, it appeared that at least 28 tankers were all heading east. While there is a multinational exercise in Norway that is about to kick off, that wouldn’t require anything like this level of relocation of refueling assets. There is no other apparent exercise or commitment that would necessitate such an operation. On the other hand, these are precisely the assets that would be needed if the United States were going to change its support of Israel’s Operation Rising Lion, or if there were urgent concerns that the conflict is about to widen significantly.

https://www.twz.com/air/armada-of-usaf-tankers-just-deployed-east-over-atlantic-spurring-speculation

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Armada Of USAF Tankers Just Deployed East Over Atlantic Spurring Speculation (Original Post) douglas9 Yesterday OP
These are air refueling aircraft, they help fighter, bombers, recon fly greater distances. Irish_Dem Yesterday #1
Let's check our friends list and see taxi Yesterday #2
They are helping someone who needs to fly very long distances on covert missions over enemy territory. Irish_Dem 23 hrs ago #5
Gee, let me guess. ananda 22 hrs ago #9
No sir pball 22 hrs ago #10
OK, well what then? ananda 21 hrs ago #11
I've no idea who it's for, but it can't be Russia nt sir pball 17 hrs ago #13
Well, that was the only country I could think of. ananda 16 hrs ago #16
I'd guess in case we start to help bomb Iran nt EX500rider 15 hrs ago #18
You know what this means, right? ananda 15 hrs ago #20
Yep. It would be nice if it was for Ukraine but we know that's not going to happen. kerry-is-my-prez 14 hrs ago #22
Not really, he has 60 days under the War Powers Act EX500rider 14 hrs ago #23
Which countries in the area have compatible systems for aerial refueling? Irish_Dem 21 hrs ago #12
Any NATO country would be able to use these tankers. sir pball 17 hrs ago #14
It's extremely unlikely to be for any NATO country. ananda 16 hrs ago #17
Israeli F-35's and F-16's NickB79 14 hrs ago #24
A country which coincidentally is flying long distant covert combat missions Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #25
Yeah, because some kids never learn not to run with scissors or poke hornet nests. taxi 13 hrs ago #27
Let's also keep an eye on the hardware johnnyfins Yesterday #3
I noticed them around midnight and posted on DU unc70 Yesterday #4
I hope Krasnov got permission from Putin to do this, gab13by13 23 hrs ago #6
My view is it may have something to do with multigraincracker 23 hrs ago #7
"Which way to Armageddon?" - G.O.P. Aiir Forrce, Inc. BoRaGard 22 hrs ago #8
Reuters' has reported this afternoon based on unnamed US officials wishstar 17 hrs ago #15
yeah that was my guess EX500rider 15 hrs ago #19
B-2 can fly 6900 miles without refueling. With refueling it can fly anywhere on the planet in hours. Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #26
Lube? JoseBalow 14 hrs ago #21
knr nt cliffside 9 hrs ago #28

Irish_Dem

(71,097 posts)
1. These are air refueling aircraft, they help fighter, bombers, recon fly greater distances.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 06:53 AM
Yesterday

So what are they doing? Who are they helping?

taxi

(2,343 posts)
2. Let's check our friends list and see
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 07:11 AM
Yesterday

NATO Countries - No, not on list
Ukraine - No, not on list
Greenland - No, not on list
We seem to be running out of friends here. I've got no idea where they would be going.

Irish_Dem

(71,097 posts)
5. They are helping someone who needs to fly very long distances on covert missions over enemy territory.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 08:15 AM
23 hrs ago

ananda

(32,184 posts)
16. Well, that was the only country I could think of.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 03:56 PM
16 hrs ago

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

ananda

(32,184 posts)
20. You know what this means, right?
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 04:57 PM
15 hrs ago

Trump apears to be planning for us to help Israel
wage war against Iran.

This will be an undeclared war with no congressional
approval...

and completely unconstitutional.

EX500rider

(11,888 posts)
23. Not really, he has 60 days under the War Powers Act
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 05:21 PM
14 hrs ago

Also may just be prepositioning some assets in case Iran follows thru on its threats.

Irish_Dem

(71,097 posts)
12. Which countries in the area have compatible systems for aerial refueling?
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:09 AM
21 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:52 AM - Edit history (1)

Which country would be flying long distance covert missions over enemy territory?

sir pball

(5,012 posts)
14. Any NATO country would be able to use these tankers.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:29 PM
17 hrs ago

Not sure about other nations (Israel), but it wouldn't surprise me if non-NATO but Western-aligned forces would maintain compatibility.

ananda

(32,184 posts)
17. It's extremely unlikely to be for any NATO country.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 03:57 PM
16 hrs ago

Not with Trump's history regarding NATO.

Irish_Dem

(71,097 posts)
25. A country which coincidentally is flying long distant covert combat missions
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 05:44 PM
14 hrs ago

and in need of aerial refueling.

taxi

(2,343 posts)
27. Yeah, because some kids never learn not to run with scissors or poke hornet nests.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 06:45 PM
13 hrs ago

A little bit of strudel and Sargeant Schultz (of Hogan's Heroes) will be saying, "I see nothing, nothing."

unc70

(6,420 posts)
4. I noticed them around midnight and posted on DU
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 07:55 AM
Yesterday

A couple of other DUers posted threads overnight. One of DU's strengths is all of us watching a huge variety of things and sharing here what we find.

BTW some of those supertankers are now over Greece.

gab13by13

(28,435 posts)
6. I hope Krasnov got permission from Putin to do this,
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 08:33 AM
23 hrs ago

if it involves helping Israel. Iran is an ally of Russia, and Pakistan just came out with a statement that if Israel uses a nuclear weapon against Iran, it will use a nuclear weapon against Israel.

Iran is no Afghanistan, Iraq, or Yemen. Iran can do damage to US foreign bases.

One has to be careful about information coming out during the fog of war.

BoRaGard

(5,763 posts)
8. "Which way to Armageddon?" - G.O.P. Aiir Forrce, Inc.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 09:10 AM
22 hrs ago

"We must kill, kill, kill for Christ and oil."

- Krasnov (R-Felon/Rapist) and G.O.P. KristoKronies

wishstar

(5,715 posts)
15. Reuters' has reported this afternoon based on unnamed US officials
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:51 PM
17 hrs ago
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-bolsters-military-options-trump-with-refueling-aircraft-officials-say-2025-06-16/

"US military strengthens air power amid Iran-Israel conflict
Deployment includes refueling aircraft and aircraft carrier Nimitz, officials say"

EX500rider

(11,888 posts)
19. yeah that was my guess
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 04:26 PM
15 hrs ago

Getting assets in area in case we start flying B-2's out of Diego Garcia, that's 3,300 miles each way to Tehran.

B-2's need special hangers and they wouldn't want them any closer due to Iranian IRBM's

They'd be the choice for dropping the GBU-57A/B MOP's on deep underground facilities. Too heavy for F-35's.
(The GBU-57A/B MOP-Massive Ordnance Penetrator is a precision-guided, 30,000-pound "bunker buster" bomb)

Also any strike package might go in with Wild Weasels (Jamming+ SAM hunting), F-35's for top cover and B-2/B-1/B52's dropping ordnance, would need a lot of tankers up.

Irish_Dem

(71,097 posts)
26. B-2 can fly 6900 miles without refueling. With refueling it can fly anywhere on the planet in hours.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 05:51 PM
14 hrs ago

So round trip from DG to Tehran is 6600 miles, I think that is cutting it a bit close.
This is why they need the tankers.

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