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Lovie777
(18,927 posts)Wounded Bear
(62,203 posts)

Demovictory9
(36,277 posts)Calling Canada 51st state
Calling other countries free loaders
The tariff debacle
Mindless unnecessary insults
Wounded Bear
(62,203 posts)Irish_Dem
(71,135 posts)I don't trust air travel.
I don't want to run into ICE agents if I travel by car, stoping at a restaurant, hotel, etc.
Ritabert
(1,201 posts)Refuse to travel through southern states at all. Basically we're hunkered down to see what happens.
Irish_Dem
(71,135 posts)Had a great time.
This year not going to do it.
Ritabert
(1,201 posts)surfered
(7,326 posts)Kid Berwyn
(20,743 posts)Lot goes into crap.
Scrivener7
(56,011 posts)Maybe we'll learn it's not a good idea to elect a guy who bankrupted a city to be president.
Or maybe not.
hlthe2b
(110,262 posts)change. Why would the very people that ICE and Customs/Border Control are most harassing/targeting (along with their supporters/family members) come to the US? Maybe FIFA will decide, instead,to add those matches to those already scheduled for Mexico and Canada. And... maybe they SHOULD.
Then there is the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles... What a potential cluster... F
uponit7771
(92,955 posts)Demovictory9
(36,277 posts)maxsolomon
(36,686 posts)I saw a bunch of Club Atlético River Plate fans from Argentina walking around downtown Seattle this morning.
Soccer mania will overwhelm any qualms foreigners have about coming here.
hlthe2b
(110,262 posts)FIFA Club World Cup Ticket Sales TANK After DHS Says Agents Will Be At Stadium
Tickets to the opening match that were once $349 (and up) could be had for just $4.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fifa-club-world-cup-ticket-prices-dhs_n_68505826e4b043333688af81
maxsolomon
(36,686 posts)It's going to be crazy.
hlthe2b
(110,262 posts)in terms of their anger toward the US and what awaits them. Unless something shakes out soon, the lack of interest for matches prior is just a harbinger of what is to happen. As I said in my earlier post, I would not be even remotely surprised if FIFA sends those World Cup Matches scheduled for US to Canada and Mexico instead. And, I could not blame them. Why would they NOT?
maxsolomon
(36,686 posts)That's why. FIFA only cares about money.
OrlandoDem2
(2,899 posts)Dont come. Stay home or go somewhere else.
malaise
(285,418 posts)That is all
fujiyamasan
(259 posts)Which the administration wants to completely either defund or sell to private parties, what is there to visit in the US?
Sorry, whether its for culture or food, or history or architecture, there are so many other countries I would want to visit over the US. Cant find a way to be a booster for American tourism, when it doesnt deserve it.
Oh and I dont think people like end up being arbitrarily detained (what most people call arrested or kidnapped) for no reason by masked thugs with 3 letter acronyms.
If Americans gave a fuck about their tourism industry it wouldnt have elected this psychopath. It frankly deserves to feel the consequences. I hope people in the industry feel the pain.
Buns_of_Fire
(18,514 posts)If you remember the ads, they went "They check in. They don't check out."
And so it goes with foreign visitors today. "You may be allowed in. You may or may not be allowed to leave."
patphil
(7,958 posts)wolfie001
(5,309 posts)I want those pig repuke governors to squeal like the pigs they've always been.
IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,104 posts)Relatives of mine, have close relatives by marriage, that are in Europe.
Citizens of EU countries.
None will visit the US as long as Trump is in office.
And some had wanted to enjoy our natural wonders,
Especially visit some of Americas National Parks.
BUT they say why bother now
..Trump has taken that away,
Cut funding, cut staff, etc. Would rather not go now.
sakabatou
(44,909 posts)wolfie001
(5,309 posts)Unbelievable how they're gaslighting the American people. Probably waiting for something big to happen so they can pin the blame on the Democratic Party for the 2025 Depression they're hurtling towards.
VanceFan
(51 posts)Wife and I just canceled a 3 week trip in Scotland. Travel agents, rental cars, B and B, tours, flights. All due to Trump. We are talking about a lot of money lost for many business's.
maxsolomon
(36,686 posts)Because of Trump? You'll find sympathy for US Liberals in the UK; only Trumpists need to keep their mouths shut over there.
Johnny2X2X
(22,943 posts)They were held by ICE at the airport for 8 hours and questioned about how they feel about Trump. US citizens, left for vacation and were detained and grilled for 8 hours about Trump.
That's where we are, you and I are not immune.
maptap22
(207 posts)whether I ended up in a prison or not...I would not lie about my feelings toward that asshole!
Johnny2X2X
(22,943 posts)These stories need attention. This is illegal and fascist. And it's happening a lot. People's phones are being seized and they're asking people about their anti Trump social media posts.
maxsolomon
(36,686 posts)Can you provide more details? Were they born here? Are they naturalized citizens?
Johnny2X2X
(22,943 posts)Their parents and grandparents were born here. Just regular Americans who were held in a room for several hours without food and questioned about their feelings on Trump extensively. They took their phones and searched them, they think they were on their Facebook or Insta accounts and then started questioning them about Trump among other things. They had to beg to be let to use the bathroom. And theirs isn't the only such story, this is happening at our airports right now, ICE is targeting people who are anti trump to harass and detain.
Prairie Gates
(5,267 posts)The vast majority of foreign tourism is to blue northern cities, California, and Las Vegas. There is, however, a lot of domestic tourism from blue areas to red areas.
hatrack
(62,725 posts)Womp womp. Strangely enough, the article below doesn't mention ICE or Trump's bullshit, or fears of mass arrests. Huh. I wonder why.
FIFA President Gianni Infantino boldly dubbed the 2025 Club World Cup epic, yet the tournaments launch paints a starkly different picture. Chelseas 2-0 victory over LAFC in Atlanta saw 50,000 empty seats haunting the 71,000-capacity Mercedes-Benz Stadium. Ticket sales have plummeted, exposing a troubling lack of public interest per BBC.com.
This isnt the spectacle FIFA envisioned. Reports confirm fewer than 25,000 tickets sold for the opener featuring Inter Miami and Al-Ahly, despite slashed prices to as low as $20 with up to four free tickets offered per TheAthleticFC. Fans arent biting, and the empty stands scream apathy.
EDIT
Ticket sales tell a grim story. FIFAs desperate price cuts, some as low as $10 for premium matches, havent moved the needle. Hard Rock Stadiums opener with Lionel Messis Inter Miami faces similar fears of sparse crowds.
Public disengagement is palpable. Social media buzz on X reveals fans mocking the empty seats, with some calling it FIFAs flop of the century. The contrast between Infantinos hype and reality stings. The tournaments format isnt the only issue. Hosting matches in the U.S., far from many clubs fanbases, alienates supporters. Travel costs and lukewarm interest in non-local teams dont help.
EDIT
https://sports.yahoo.com/article/fifa-club-world-cup-epic-175726545.html
boston bean
(36,781 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,882 posts)seems more welcoming to foreign visitors, thats to be expected.
If the MAGA Magoos are unwilling to draw lines, this situation is on them.