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In reply to the discussion: Mind your own damn business. [View all]WhiskeyGrinder
(26,053 posts)36. Thank you for your apology. Please don't beat yourself up about it.
But I stand by my assertion that access to information and access to effective methods of birth control for all girls and women would make abortion a more rare method of last resort. And that is how I have always interpreted Hillary Clinton's quote
That's fair. I will say, though, that in the movement, there's been a shift away from that sentiment, because wanting something to be rare can create a stigma around it -- that it's dangerous, something to be avoided, something to not have to talk about. The slogan just isn't used anymore.
And I also stand by my personal experience with women who have had abortions. For everyone I've talked to about it (including my own experience) it was a difficult decision. In some cases, a very difficult decision that it took many years to fully come to terms with.
Again, there's been a shift in both understanding and talking about abortion. For many people who get abortions, it's actually not a difficult decision, and not one they agonize over. It's always been this way, but people who found it easy to make the decision were often ignored or silenced in the early days of the movement. But that narrative is not front and center anymore either, because we know that people who have access to all options know what they want and need. I am sorry you found your decision difficult.
Life would have been far easier if birth control had been available to them without restriction, in an easily accessible clinic, and without cost.
This is exactly what people in the movement are now fighting for. Instead of "safe, legal and rare," it's for abortion to be "free, on demand and without apology."Edit history
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That's an excellent question. If a man is just the vehicle for the distribution of zillions of sperm
erronis
Tuesday
#8
The provider of the egg and the nurture should be the only one to have authority, under law and justice.
erronis
Tuesday
#10
Some men have uteruses and plenty of women think abortion should be illegal.
WhiskeyGrinder
Tuesday
#12
Safety as in abortion is a lower health risk than dental work, and giving birth is a higher health risk than dental work
ancianita
Tuesday
#27
"I do not know ANY FEMALE person who would "choose" abortion as a method of birth control"
WhiskeyGrinder
Tuesday
#26
Just curious. Are you now, or have your ever been a person who could become pregnant?
pat_k
Tuesday
#29
Abortion can be safe, legal, rare, free, on demand and without apology all at once
biophile
Wednesday
#41
It is bad enough that women still must defend their right to make life altering choices about continuing a pregnancy..
pat_k
Tuesday
#21
Not one of you live in fear of having a miscarriage and being hauled off to jail
Clouds Passing
Tuesday
#23