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pat_k

(12,569 posts)
31. I fear I may have responded in a knee jerk way because...
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 10:40 PM
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...to date the people I have encountered who assert that abortion is used as a primary method of birth control have been anti-abortion males promoting the notion that legal and safe abortions would create some sort of sodom and gomorrah.

I apologize for my McCarthyesque query. I am ashamed of that sort of response. I've been on DU for over 20 years because discussion here is generally better than that.

You are of course correct to point out that abortion is in fact a form of birth control in that it terminates a pregnancy. But I stand by my assertion that access to information and access to effective methods of birth control for all girls and women would make abortion a more rare method of last resort. And that is how I have always interpreted Hillary Clinton's quote

I believe abortion should be safe, legal and rare, and when I say 'rare,' I mean rare!


And I also stand by my personal experience with women who have had abortions. For everyone I've talked to about it (including my own experience) it was a difficult decision. In some cases, a very difficult decision that it took many years to fully come to terms with. Life would have been far easier if birth control had been available to them without restriction, in an easily accessible clinic, and without cost.

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ding x 1000000000! AllaN01Bear Tuesday #1
Excellent 👍👍💙💙 TommieMommy Tuesday #2
Brava! sheshe2 Tuesday #3
Hmmmm.....do men have lack of standing in court? Karadeniz Tuesday #4
What do you think, do they? bluesbassman Tuesday #6
That's an excellent question. If a man is just the vehicle for the distribution of zillions of sperm erronis Tuesday #8
THIS!!! calimary Tuesday #5
I couldn't agree more. 👍 Dave Bowman Tuesday #7
She is 100% correct. GoodRaisin Tuesday #9
The provider of the egg and the nurture should be the only one to have authority, under law and justice. erronis Tuesday #10
Excellent! 2naSalit Tuesday #11
Some men have uteruses and plenty of women think abortion should be illegal. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #12
Noted. ZDU Tuesday #15
Supportive of? WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #18
Bill Clinton suggested that abortion should be safe, legal and rare.. Permanut Tuesday #13
When abortion is safe and legal, there's no reason for it to be rare. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #17
Roger that.. Permanut Tuesday #19
Safety as in...? WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #20
I'm not a health care provider.. Permanut Tuesday #22
Depends on the method of prevention. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #25
Safety as in abortion is a lower health risk than dental work, and giving birth is a higher health risk than dental work ancianita Tuesday #27
Right. Mife is safer than Tylenol. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #28
As a 65 year old woman... pat_k Tuesday #24
"I do not know ANY FEMALE person who would "choose" abortion as a method of birth control" WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #26
Just curious. Are you now, or have your ever been a person who could become pregnant? pat_k Tuesday #29
What about my response prompts this McCarthyist question? WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #30
I fear I may have responded in a knee jerk way because... pat_k Tuesday #31
Thank you for your apology. Please don't beat yourself up about it. WhiskeyGrinder Wednesday #36
Abortion can be safe, legal, rare, free, on demand and without apology all at once biophile Wednesday #41
You have a point that "rare" as a policy goal can attach a stigma to it. pat_k Wednesday #42
Hear, hear! ZDU Tuesday #14
Don't forget the "It's not my fault. She was askin' for it." part. Ping Tung Tuesday #16
It is bad enough that women still must defend their right to make life altering choices about continuing a pregnancy.. pat_k Tuesday #21
Not one of you live in fear of having a miscarriage and being hauled off to jail Clouds Passing Tuesday #23
Interesting to see this, right after learning that robert dear, the Planned niyad Tuesday #32
Just learned this too pat_k Tuesday #33
K&R spanone Tuesday #34
Wow. Just, wow. And Amen. Joinfortmill Wednesday #35
I'm glad to get on the rec list. Better late than never. NNadir Wednesday #37
I and my husband have always felt those true words. chouchou Wednesday #38
But, the Bible says ... JustABozoOnThisBus Wednesday #39
100% true! Martin68 Wednesday #40
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