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Jim__

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Fri Oct 31, 2025, 12:08 AM Friday

Mathematical proof debunks the idea that the universe is a computer simulation

From phys.org

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The research hinges on a fascinating property of reality itself. Modern physics has moved far beyond Newton's tangible "stuff" bouncing around in space. Einstein's theory of relativity replaced Newtonian mechanics. Quantum mechanics transformed our understanding again. Today's cutting-edge theory—quantum gravity—suggests that even space and time aren't fundamental. They emerge from something deeper: pure information.

This information exists in what physicists call a Platonic realm—a mathematical foundation more real than the physical universe we experience. It's from this realm that space and time themselves emerge.

Here's where it gets interesting. The team demonstrated that even this information-based foundation cannot fully describe reality using computation alone. They used powerful mathematical theorems—including Gödel's incompleteness theorem—to prove that a complete and consistent description of everything requires what they call "non-algorithmic understanding."

Think of it this way. A computer follows recipes, step by step, no matter how complex. But some truths can only be grasped through non-algorithmic understanding—understanding that doesn't follow from any sequence of logical steps. These "Gödelian truths" are real, yet impossible to prove through computation.

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The paper itself is relatively short. A pdf copy of the paper can be read here.

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The universe is built on a type of understanding that exists beyond the reach of any algorithm.

I am so fed up to ∞ with algotithms!

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