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Recently I stumbled upon some work on an early nuclear reactor, the Clementine reactor, which operated in the late 1940's and was the first fast spectrum reactor every built, in essence, the first plutonium based breeder reactor. It was cooled by the toxic liquid element mercury.
The reactor is described here: Hannah K. Patenaude & Franz J. Freibert (2023) Oh, My Darling Clementine: A Detailed History and Data Repository of the Los Alamos Plutonium Fast Reactor, Nuclear Technology, 209, 7, 963-1007
Surprisingly it is the only reactor ever built with a mercury coolant.
The article just linked is open to the public to read, and comes with lots of pictures of the reactor, built in a period of less than a year. Norris Bradbury, who succeeded Robert Oppenheimer as director of the Los Alamos laboratory in 1945, is quoted in the article with an amusing observation, some 25 years after the fact:
We made the first plutonium reactor, called Clementine, and it was the first reactor that operated upon a fast neutron spectrum. I only pause to note that today it would take you ten billion dollars and fifty thousand volumes of environmental reports and nobodyd let you do it anyway, but we just did it. And it worked beautifully; we finally shut it down when it became clear that some of the components were a little tired.Citation19
The size of the reactor core is obviated in this picture:

The core, as small as it is, was housed in a much larger structure to afford shielding and control devices, but not huge:

One of the interesting points to which no attention seems to have been drawn, is that the mercury coolant, in a neutron flux, and exposed to his energy fission gamma rays, should have, and quit possibly did, transmute mercury into gold, including gold's only stable isotope, 197Au.
This first case of why this should be is pretty obvious with some basic understanding of nuclear physics with respect to neutrons:
A stable isotope of gold, 196Hg, can capture a neutron which makes it into the radioactive isotope 197Hg, a radioactive isotope with a half life of 64.94 hours, whereupon it decays into stable gold. The problem is that although 196Hg is thought to be radioactive and to decay via alpha emission into platinum 192, this with a half life is so long, that it has never been observed, it is an extremely rare natural isotope of mercury, less than 0.2% of the total stable isotopes found in natural mercury. In Clementine, it was probably not worth looking for it, since the reactor was quite small.
The second case is far more subtle, and involves a mercury isotope heavier than gold 198Hg. Exposed to high energy gamma rays, 198Hg can emit a neutron, yielding an isotope that is one amu (atomic mass unit) lighter, 197Hg. (This isotope is radioactive, with a half life of 64.94 hours. It decays to stable non-radioactive gold.) This is a photonuclear reaction and, although the property has been known for a long time (I discovered it on Wikipedia a few years ago) photonuclear reactions are covered in a very recent paper out of Russia:
O.V. Poriadina, S.S. Belyshev, N.Yu. Fursova, V.V. Khankin, A.A. Kuznetsov, Photonuclear reactions on mercury isotopes, Nuclear Physics A, Volume 1063, 2025, 123206.
To avoid the limitations of the DU editor, an excerpt of the full paper above is posted as a graphic object about the purpose of transmuting mercury isotopes into radioactive isotopes of gold for use, largely in medical settings:

The paper contains a list of mercury isotopes, along with radioactive gold species along with the half-lives of each:

Note that the gold isotopes have short half-lives, on the order of hours to a few days, meaning that any gold removed from the system will relatively rapidly decay to ground state stable nuclei. Note that there are two nuclear isomers of 197Hg, the nuclear isotopes 197gHg and 197mHg. If these nuclear isomers decay via isomeric transition (IT), they will end up as the ground state radioactive mercury isotope 197Hg that will be in a few weeks time, non-radioactive natural gold, 197Au. It is possible, not specified in the paper, that they will also decay directly to 197Au; it really doesn't matter much except in an academic sense. If this gold remains in the reactor some of it, certainly not all of it, will capture neutrons to become the radioactive isotopes of gold mentioned for medical use, but within a few weeks of cooling, will essentially be pure natural non-radioactive gold.
The lowest threshold for neutron emission in 198Hg is reported in the paper as being 8.48 MeV, very energetic gamma rays, not accessible from fission products, but certainly accessible from the gamma rays associated with fission itself. It does seem to me therefore that a mercury cooled reactor might well, transmute toxic mercury into biologically inert gold, left to cool for a few weeks to deal with any radioactive gold isotopes.
We are entering an age of renewed nuclear engineering creativity not seen since the early 1960's. To my knowledge, no one is interested in developing a mercury cooled reactor like the Clementine reactor of the 1940's. Nevertheless, it would be cool I think, should one ever be built, to check out if transmutation of mercury into gold does take place. It turns out, even if mercury is not lead, that the alchemist's dream is actually possible.
It's a weird little thought, but one that strikes me as interesting.
Have a nice day tomorrow.
marble falls
(69,045 posts)NNadir
(36,840 posts)ret5hd
(21,923 posts)Norrrm
(3,269 posts)3Hotdogs
(14,762 posts)Ya don't suppose .......
NNadir
(36,840 posts)I'm afraid the americium in your smoke detectors won't do. The highest energy gamma rays in a smoke detector are around 26 keV, about 300 times less energetic than what you need.
Don't try this at home. Neutrons can be bad for you.
If you have a friend with a high flux nuclear reactor, you can bring your thermometer to he, she, or them, but somehow I think they might get in trouble for trying to help you get rich off your thermometer.
3Hotdogs
(14,762 posts)Are they ever on sale?
NNadir
(36,840 posts)...ahead, before my son was even born, I ran out and bought a breadboard, resistors, capacitors, LEDs, diodes and triodes.
I was such a dork, but Radio Shack, it was a mystical heaven for me in my adolescence and teen years, five decades ago.
(My first son rejected his father's idiotic science push and became an artist; my revenge was that he built circuits as a young artist for his art work.)
It turns out that at Radio Shack they don't sell gamma energy generators, cyclotrons or other accelerators, or any cool stuff for the transmutation of mercury into gold.
It's sad, I know.
Perhaps in the future...
3Hotdogs
(14,762 posts)At 11, he designed his gaming computer, went with our friend (70 year old electronics dork), bought the parts and assembled it. I don't know much about the sophistication of such devices but I know that it has 15 fans in it. I don't think my iMac has any fans.
NNadir
(36,840 posts)Your son or daughter will need to encourage that interest.
My youngest son designs nuclear reactors, but he's relatively slow as he's in his twenties, not his pre-teens like your grandson.
My oldest son always builds his own computers but he started doing that in his 20s
I am told that 70% of Chinese government officials have engineering or scientific degrees.
This is why they will dominate the future.
I suggest that your grandson take some time and space from that fine mind of his and do what my son did, learn to speak and read Chinese.
Really, our country will need people like your grandson. Nuture him, encourage him.
When my youngest was a star in high school, I took him on a bike ride, and took a break, and we stopped to rest on a bench to explain to him that his mind did not entirely belong to him. I told him he owed it to humanity, that it was a responsibility not a privilege. I don't know that he was humoring me, but he told me he understood. I told him the greatest ethical shortfall of my life was not understanding as much when I was young.
I do want him to get out of the country until it is ready for rebuilding after this festival of ignorance is over.
Good luck to your grandson. You should be proud.
Ponietz
(4,122 posts)Fusion Startup Says It's Figured Out How to Turn Mercury Into Gold
https://www.reddit.com/r/STEW_ScTecEngWorld/s/1h9k15laLp
Also, theres the account of James Price.
https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting/s/6bQPfrQ5KD
NNadir
(36,840 posts)...of anyone now living.
This said, 14 MeV neutrons from fission, via the 198Hg[n,2n]197Hg -> 197Au reaction would be far more efficient at this transformation, than fission gamma rays.
The note in the reddit site you linked states the gold would be radioactive. This is true, but the cooling times would be very short. Gold has no neutron rich radioisotopes that are very long lived. Gold recovered from the evaporation of residual mercury would be usable within months, not years.
There are a lot of fusion start ups these days, and surprisingly they're generating investor interest. I believe almost all of them, if not everyone of them, will fail. One of the fun things about them is that it would seem none of them have come close to figuring out how to recovery exergy from the plasma. This renders the fusion heat nearly worthless, particularly because the device needs some heat shielding to survive. If however, the neutrons pass through the walls, into mercury, to recover exergy, then maybe that would work.
Most of the wall designs I've seen for fusion reactors are based on tungsten. Under these conditions, assuming a fusion reactor could operate continuously - which is not clear to me - tungsten would be transmuted into the extremely valuable elements rhenium, osmium, iridium, and ultimately platinum were it to operate for decades. It wouldn't be all that impressive. The neutron flux of a fusion reactor is very low compared to that of a fission reactor, which is many orders of magnitude higher.